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I think the DF-7 is a great pedal for 80's metal.
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Cheers folks. :-)

Yeah, the Metal Shop's been having some media hosting issues lately. Hopefully we can get some new hosting sorted out soonish. We used Podomatic for the last couple of episodes, but that service automatically downsamples podcasts to 64kbps MP3, which, for a podcast about recording, isn't much use.

So, add that in to Brandon (the other host) having a big life upheaval (moving back to Ohio from Colorado), you could say the show's on a bit of a hiatus for just now until things get sorted out.

Although if the SSB boys fancy having me on to talk recording....;-)
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Well here's my submission for the album cover...

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Needs a bit of tidying up, but you get the gist...
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AUD 360.- ?? Ouch. That is a rip off. These Sansamp pedals are never cheap .... but they are sure worth it. The new ones (Oxford, US Steel .... and even the older GT2 pedals ..... are €199.- which is AUD 287.-

Ther Digitech DF-7 goes for €99.- here

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Today at 5:19am, JMan wrote:
but the US Steel is evenmore High Gain !!

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That Sounds Awesome J! and it actually has a lot of variation, turning the knobs a bit makes an audible difference. i like how it responds to the guitars volume knob which means my S/D Blackouts should push for even more gain.

this thing could even be good for practice with headphones...

il check em out, but i do wonder how much i will be getting ripped off here in Australia.

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i just ran a quick search and in Australia it $360.... damm....
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Today at 8:52am, laughinglarry wrote:
how can I get the earlier episodes (only the last 2 are on iTunes)?


you can download all the episodes here, Larry? http://www.themetalshop.info/
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Happy Birthday Neil!

When will we see the return of The Metalshop, and how can I get the earlier episodes (only the last 2 are on iTunes)?
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Today at 2:40am, alfalfasprout69 wrote:

Today at 1:41am, cotton9 wrote:
what affects the volume of your stack? the head or the cabinet?
-cotton ;D

The speakers and the design of the speaker box.

...in combination with how much power the head can pass through to the cab in the first place. Of course Alfie's right that it is the efficency of the speaker/cabinet in turning that electrical signal into moving air that determines how loud the whole set up is.
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« Result #10 Today at 5:21am »

I sooooooo recommend this pedal. I have it and love it. I provides so many great distortions.


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THat Oxford pedal sounds sweet!
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« Result #12 Today at 5:19am »

Thats a good point there Alfie. According to TECH21 ... the internal switching is of such that one CAN use it infront of an Amp ... as those clips show. So tell the dude at the music store to do his homework. BUT ..... technically it will have some 'simulation' in there ...... thats why they brought out the latest pedals with a speaker emulation bypass switch ON the pedal. Seems this was requested by tons of people ... as they sound SO good .... but many wanted the speaker emulation bypassed completely.

So, if you have a look ..... the Leeds (Hiwatt), Oxford (Orange) and US Steel (Mesa Boogie) all have this switch on the pedal. You should have a look at the US Steel one !!!!!! In the previous series, the 'California' (without the switch) is also a Mesa ...... but the US Steel is evenmore High Gain !!

http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/sansamp/characterseries.html



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Today at 3:36am, JMan wrote:
but it works very well through an amp too.

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hey J. is there a switch to change the output on the pedal for amplifier. please forgive my ignorance as far as i know the pedal are only made for emulation, i wanted to buy the mesa/american hi-gain character series but the dude at the music store told me they're are not designed to be used as a normal pedal. i say bullocks i want to use it with my amp....

these are awesome suggestions J, but i think Pappy has been bitten by the "Modder's" bug!
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Well, if it's 'Marshall' you're after ..... without actually having one, listen to basically anything I have played or put up here ......

Sansamp 'British'

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Analog pedal, with a 'charachter' dial that lets you smoothly move from Bluesbreakers, over Plexis to JCM800 ......
I use it 'direct' .... so no amp ..... but it works very well through an amp too.

Here is ONE example on YouTube ....

http://www.youtube.com/user/Burgerman666#p/search/4/0VOEc00ZzzM

For ME ..... not having an Amp ..... the best pedal I've ever bought. I use it for most of my stuff !!!

Oh, and there is the 'Oxford' too. It's and orange pedal .... get it? ;)



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Today at 1:41am, cotton9 wrote:
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thank you i almost understandt it
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Yesterday at 9:22pm, pappy wrote:
link's not working, Alfie.

I also thought about getting one of the Orange pedals and modding it to a JCM style distortion. I love the Marshall crunch. Do you suppose it's possible to get a cranked Orange tone out of it with whatever mod? That would seem fitting...


hey pappy.... do yo mean a Digitech Hothead destortion pedal....
like this one?

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i find it more modern sounding and for the $40 S/hand i picked it up for its great... the circuit board on these digetech pedals have a lot of surface mound components so MODS are a little limited... i my opinion the Hothead is a great sounding pedal stock, the eq section is so powerfull. and the gain knob it controllable with lots of boost on the level knob.
it sound more modern than a stock DS1 & i like it.... its quiet too for a distortion pedal

if your thinking about getting a ds1 and modding it check out my blog.

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if you like i can do a sound sample for you with my Marshall DS1 just give me a list of riffs you want to hear & how much gain you want me to put in on each riff and il send it to you....

the biggest influence on the sound is the opamp's they use (I.C) & the clipping stage.... for me, changing the clipping stage has had the biggest impact and i belive its what gives my ds1 a more tubey Marshall sound.

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as for getting the Orange Crunch, all you would have to do is copy the tonestack's mid hump & play around with the clipping stage (diodes) but it could be a long a painstaking trial and error process... if you are patient i say go for it! then sell the mod with parts and make some money on evilbay!
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link's not working, Alfie.

I also thought about getting one of the Orange pedals and modding it to a JCM style distortion. I love the Marshall crunch. Do you suppose it's possible to get a cranked Orange tone out of it with whatever mod? That would seem fitting...
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wishing you the happiest of birthdays Mr Neil from the Metal Shop Podcast! ;D
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Another great episode and to me it really felt like the three hosts have settled into a natural rhythm.

On the strength of the AmpliTube and iRig review (plus the one at http://www.fifthfret.org/) I've just placed the order an installed the app. Can't wait to try it out.

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Yesterday at 5:31am, pappy wrote:
I've got the Bad Monkey and love it. I came back from a deployment one time to find it covered in a gunk that turned out to be orange juice that had been spilled all over it by my daughter and over the months dried out (Pappette didn't notice this because it was then hidden by my daughter). I cleaned off the top so the knobs wouldn't be sticky and fired it up and it still works like a champ!

I'd like to get one in the future to mod, but this one will be staying stock because it sounds so dang good.


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I've got the Bad Monkey and love it. I came back from a deployment one time to find it covered in a gunk that turned out to be orange juice that had been spilled all over it by my daughter and over the months dried out (Pappette didn't notice this because it was then hidden by my daughter). I cleaned off the top so the knobs wouldn't be sticky and fired it up and it still works like a champ!

I'd like to get one in the future to mod, but this one will be staying stock because it sounds so dang good.
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Yesterday at 12:01am, alcoyot wrote:
Do they all work differently? I know you have the tube pedals like the EHX English muffin which sounds extremely badass. I don't want to pay that much though. In that same price range there is the Love pedal Englishman which also sounds amazing, solid state though. I might check out the RAT.
I read that Stevie Ray Vaughn used the Ibanez Tube screamer at a low gain level, that might be one to check out if it was good enough for SRV. It has no tube in it though, it works by clipping an opto circuit.
The cheapest one seems to be the D-1 which I could used for 20-30 at most. I might try it out at the store, but I'm skeptical if its that cheap.


hey dude....

if you want a tubescreamer on the cheap, the TS-7 is a great option... iv had mine for many many years and its great...
here's the pros and cons

pro's. - Cheap pedal for that T.S sound
- Made of Metal
- Control Knobs push in so they are recessed to ensure your settings dont get bumped out
- Hot mode for extra gain
- easy battery compartment
- easy to mod (eg TS808 specs, or different clipping & opamps)
- cheap new & even cheaper secondhand

con's. - can be a bit noisy with the hot mode on full gain
- the small tactical switch sometime doesnt turn on after about 3 years of use, however you can get replacement from www.smallbearelec.com for $0.95

in my opinion its an awesome pedal for a low price and gives you a real Ibanez Tubescreamer. i modded mine by changing to TS808 spec's then changing opamps, adding more gain to hot mode, a bit more bass and different clipping stage. it sounds so so good for such little money...

another good cheap tubescreamer type pedal is the Digitech bad monkey. its got a better eq section for a bit more tonal options.

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Do they all work differently? I know you have the tube pedals like the EHX English muffin which sounds extremely badass. I don't want to pay that much though. In that same price range there is the Love pedal Englishman which also sounds amazing, solid state though. I might check out the RAT.
I read that Stevie Ray Vaughn used the Ibanez Tube screamer at a low gain level, that might be one to check out if it was good enough for SRV. It has no tube in it though, it works by clipping an opto circuit.
The cheapest one seems to be the D-1 which I could used for 20-30 at most. I might try it out at the store, but I'm skeptical if its that cheap.
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Just got a whole bunch of new music books, they're a little pricey but so worth it if you think about how much you can get out of them. And learning from tabs on the net is the WORST, for so many reasons. I got
1. 24 Estudios Para Guitarra Flamenca.- For my classical, long overdue to get something like this, its a bunch of etudes.
2. Jimi Hendrix, full music transcriptions. Finally time to tackle some Hendrix. I'm psyched about this, was working on purple haze for about an hour so far.
3. The Doors E-Z version. I already have the actual version, but I couldn't make heads or tails of what Krieger was doing. This basically just has the chords of the songs and some basic riffs. WIth the real book I was struggling for hours to get through a few measures to make them actually sound right. With this new book, I can now play entire songs all the way through immediately, and I checked to make sure they are all in the correct key. I am jamming with a drummer tommorow so this will be great.
4. Easy Blues Rhythms for Guitar. Want to improve my Blues rhythm skills for jamming. It looked like a pretty good book, haven't started through it yet.

Anyone have any other good music books?
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« Result #31 on Jul 29, 2010, 10:55pm »

Thanks for the comments here and on Facebook.

This car was a joint effort between may Dad, Brother and myself. My Dad, whos a retired graphic designer is my go-to guy for all my graphic needs. He's the reason I have any eye for detail.

My brother is a master model maker. Every since I can remember he was building car models then blowing them up in the driveway. Over the past several years he gone to strictly Indy car models. His work is highly regarded and he has clients all around the world. He prides himself on highly accurate replicas. From the proper placement of decals down to the correct color of wires going into the distributor cap. These arent you $5.99 hobby store models.

Anyway, in a rare moment of clarity I had a vision of a Benford Guitars Indy car. The perfect project that all 3 of us could work on together. The color was based on my new logo which is on the side of the car. I provided all the sponsor logos. My Dad did the overall graphic and color layout as well as designing the numbers with the Sails behind them. Actual decals such as Firestone and Honda were added for a more realistic look. The coolest part is none of the "sponsors" had any idea I was doing this. They sponsored me whether they wanted to or not. Heres the sponsors in no particular order.

DAddario, Searcy, SSB, 5th Fret, Def Leppard, Kings X, Ziebell truck painting, Dimarzio, Duncan, Grover tuners and Greedo. Yes Greedo from Star Wars. That was the name of my first band.

Anyway, the car turned out great. I havent seen it in person as my brother has it and needs to ship it to me. I cant wait.

If anyone is interested in checking out more of his amazing work they can see it here. www.stubenford.com

By they way. Areosmith did actually have a Indy car.

Heres the real car.
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Thanks for looking (and reading)

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« Result #32 on Jul 29, 2010, 9:39pm »

I think its an incredible album. It also turned me onto wolfmother who I like. At first I was put off by some of the choices of weaker singers on the album. Even with Ozzy I love his early stuff, but now he's just a tired old guy trying to make money. His singing is lifeless to me. Anyways I think that the poor choice of some singers still kind of taints the album, making it harder for me to enjoy fully.
But the tracks I do like, lets just say when I first heard them I got so excited that I stayed up all night listening to them until my ears hurt. Also they should put the track with Koshi Inaba on the American version, its one of the best ones.
And yeah this album is not gnr. I actually like Slash's Snakepit more than GNR. I saw them in 2000 and they were one of the 2 best bands I've ever seen the other one AcDc. I can't really listen to GnR anymore, its so way overplayed, and in retrospect some of the songs are really not that great. "I used to love her but I want to kill her"??? What were they thinking, get some therapy asap!
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« Result #33 on Jul 29, 2010, 9:03pm »

I have an app that deals with scales, chords, arpeggios, stuff like that and the screen moves as the time goes on so you don't have to touch the screen once the thing starts. It's pretty cool and one of the apps that I use most often with the Guitar Sidekick (or DID use before I got AmpliTube and Learn & Master Guitar).
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« Result #34 on Jul 29, 2010, 7:16pm »


Jul 29, 2010, 7:00am, Jacko wrote:
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God, I had thought that George Burns died... :o ;)

Thank all of you for the warm wishes! It's been a great day, and it's not over yet. I may be ancient, but I can appreciate that I live a pretty charmed life. :) 8-) :-*
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Jul 29, 2010, 4:20am, alfalfasprout69 wrote:

Jul 28, 2010, 8:44am, neilomac wrote:
Good episode :-) Hope you all enjoyed my cheeky wee slab of RAWK at the end of the show as well ;-)


Awesome Song Neil..... welcome to the Bliss forums....


Great song. I loved the mix of 'acoustic' and dirt. Good vocals too.

If I had $500 to spend on a guitar I'd get Benford to build me a Tele.

I've not tried any guitar apps on my Android phone. I know there are various tuners, but I have a clip-on. What other sorts of apps would I want to use? I saw some dedicated gadget that displays tab, but I manage with paper for that.
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The Hold Steady is what would come to existence if Bruce Springsteen, the Counting Crows and Marc Cohn got together and had a baby.
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Happy Birthday! :-*
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« Result #38 on Jul 29, 2010, 3:40pm »

Another great show guys! You put together a bunch of very cool elements, and I really hope some of these come around again.

Great job on the reviews Pappy. How cool that the Castiv Guitar Sidekick actually adds to the playability of the iPhone Amplitube!

I really loved the Picks segment (although Pappy's selection made me puke in my mouth a little ::) :P)

The guitar build segment was a lot of fun - you all took very unique approaches. PT, I'm not sure if a Bigsby is such a simple addition to a Tele. Typically they use the bridge that's already on a stop-tailpiece guitar. I know that you can't do that with a Tele's standard bridge, and to change to a stop-tail is probably a budget breaker. Stetsbar has a Tele version, but you're in for about $219 for that; then again it's far nicer than a Bigsby...

Great job on GOW too. I really love Cake - for some reason the vocalist doesn't bother me at all, wheras with The Hold Steady I just can't take it. I think Cake's vocalist is more of a character voice, and I've always been good with Tom Waits, Buster Poindexter, Bob Dylan, etc. But yeah, it's the guitar and trumpet that make Cake so awesome.

Terrific job on the outro too Neil! I hope we get to hear more of your music!
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Jul 28, 2010, 3:33pm, pappy wrote:
There needs to be a jaw-dropping emoticon.

Pretty much the same as the one Jacko posted - here's the one I keep handy...

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« Result #40 on Jul 29, 2010, 1:04pm »


Jul 28, 2010, 7:48pm, Benford Guitars wrote:

Jul 28, 2010, 7:31pm, pappy wrote:
Why the extra strap pin?

1) Different playing positions
2) Built in guitar stand.
3) Dave wanted to leave me with a odd number of strap pins in my parts bin. A evil plot of sorts

It was mainly #2 because I just hate seeing my guitar slowly slide over when it is propped up against an amp or wall.

There's a very little bit of #1 but I very rarely use the bottom pin.

#3 is a side benefit because now, so that I don't feel guilty, I will have to order another custom from Steve, to use up the spare pin. :)
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